Painful - Behavior Review

[RichardNixon]

Painful,

Considering your reaction to all of this and the way you've handled yourself in the past, I have concluded that you are not the right fit for a WTS Shaman position.

Every time you think you've been wronged by me, you up and leave the clan. This is like rage quite #2,3,...4 maybe? I respect your DotA skills, but I'm afraid that there is a level of responsibility and maturity that is needed for leadership positions in real organizations, and you are not at that level. Here's a good place to look for examples of why: http://www.clanwts.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1436.

I'm sorry it didn't work out, and I wish you the best of luck in all your future endeavors :).

Sincerely,
RichardNixon

BTW, I think Painful is trying to start his own clan. Feel free to leave WTS and join him if you prefer - I won't think badly of you for doing so. The most important thing is for you to play in a group that works together effectively and treats each and every member with fairness and respect. I put this goal above my own desire to run our gaming community. For some of you, Painful's leadership might be able to provide this kind of gaming experience where I have failed.

[painful]

I'm not posting anything. I'm not making a big deal out of it and I'm not advertising it on the forums. I'm not asking for some "leadership position" in this clan. This clan isn't right for me and it hasn't nor will it offer the "gameplay experience" i'm looking for.


Good bye.

[MMOItachi]

painful keep in mind your looking for "gameplay experience" on a game that is considered ancient by today's standards.... that term would be fine to use in games such as CoD or larger RTS games... but this 10-12 year old game has very limited "experience" you can find

[Coins]

You want an experience buy the game actually learn how to play the regular game then start participating in TDA then start fishing around for a dota league....
Your not gonna find it here.



And its seems apparent Painful has been removed from shaman due to his maturity and respect towards others?
Well, its actually funny because people were talking about what you would do in channel and its funny because you did exactly what they predicted. It shows how mature you are and how easily predictable you are.
You need to learn humility. And need to just take learn to play for fun and stop taking these decisions serious.

I'm not telling you this to piss you off, or to be mean. I'm just letting you know that you shouldn't take things so serious, get off your fucking high horse and just enjoy the game with some friends.

and believe it or not i don't dislike you. So you should stick around and not be so lame all the time.

[painful]

painful keep in mind your looking for "gameplay experience" on a game that is considered ancient by today's standards.... that term would be fine to use in games such as CoD or larger RTS games... but this 10-12 year old game has very limited "experience" you can find

1) what does the recency of a game have to do with the enjoyability of it? Dota is well and alive, in fact, its GAINING more popularity and becoming more accepted in the gaming community. There are two commercial games, (League of Legends and Demigod) which are in beta stages / released due to the INCREASING popularity of Dota.

2) even if if Wc3 is old, dota is still getting consistenly updated. Compared to CoD, DotA is a fuctionally "newer" game.


You want an experience buy the game actually learn how to play the regular game then start participating in TDA then start fishing around for a dota league....
Your not gonna find it here.

And its seems apparent Painful has been removed from shaman due to his maturity and respect towards others?
Well, its actually funny because people were talking about what you would do in channel and its funny because you did exactly what they predicted. It shows how mature you are and how easily predictable you are.
You need to learn humility. And need to just take learn to play for fun and stop taking these decisions serious.

I'm not telling you this to piss you off, or to be mean. I'm just letting you know that you shouldn't take things so serious, get off your fucking high horse and just enjoy the game with some friends.

and believe it or not i don't dislike you. So you should stick around and not be so lame all the time.

1) why do i need to buy the game to have good games? if you weren't so ignorant, you would know there are perfectly competitive leagues on euronet. dpl and ss.

2) i got removed because judddredd fucked up. nixon agrees with me. why do you think there is a new procedure; what case did you think was inaccurately accessed? I don't need to disclose private conversations to you, so don't ask.

3) you're illogical. predictability doesn't mean immaturity. I guess you would be immature if i predicted you'd get pissed if someone shot your loved ones.
You can predict i would get pissed because i was wrongly accused. Good for you. You can predict that I would leave clan, more power to you. Neither of these actions show immaturity, only consistency.

4) i enjoy the game by playing it seriously. you can have a different "gaming experience" but that doesn't make my view of fun bad.

5) lets not worry about other people when you're blatantly hypocritical. refer to previous threads on that.
lets look at your most recent example, posting jokes on a serious thread:
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[Coins]

How did judd fucked up? how does nixon agree with you?

You clearly been removed from shaman and you rage quit like the 10th time because of this happening.. Just look at your track record...people complain about you all the time. Your like a broken record that does the same thing over and over.....

The new system seems to be pretty much much the same as before but asks for random people to judge others...I'm almost sure that if it was judd dredd, nixon, zerg, ice, me, yody, or whatever.... it would be the same verdict....your not wrongly accused....your rightly accused on multiple occasion

your like a convict who is found guilty when the facts are all hard evidence with witness and keeps asking for an appeal on verdicts thinking the outcome will change somehow.... are you really this dense thinking the results will change?

Post after post is a complaint against you? Channel is the same too....i find it funny that Nixon commenting on your 5-6th time quitting because of this.

You act as tho this clan isn't for you but i can bet a million bucks you would of never left if you weren't demoted.... Its funny and sad really.

I'm not ignorant on dota leagues of euro but if you want to play with a scrubby euro leagues with a different time schedule than us standard time, with a laggy bot. Then be my guest....Do as you please.... you seem to found a place that you think will gladly take you. But i can bet you will be ostracized there too or with your own made up clan.

its funny tho. no matter how many arguments or trolling i get with people. I continue to play with them like nothing happened. I don't boot or kick or abuse my privileges. I let anyone play that doesn't deserve it whether i dislike them or they suck as long as they don't purposely disconnect. Then they're fine by me

and go ahead and use a quote of a joke against me. I mean after all this isn't a video game we're playing its a way of life or to painful it is.

hmmm i wonder how "dpl and ss" will handle your unstable internet connection too.... good luck with that.

[RichardNixon]

I talked with Painful privately, there was a misunderstanding concerning the judgment because of the poor English. I also thought Painful left just because we were investigating his behavior, but he thought he was demoted for other reasons. Anyway, as he said, we cleared that up in channel yesterday. That makes this all irrelevant, so I'm closing the thread.

Finally, I want to say that before any of you make some rash decision like quit the clan or whatever, you should talk to me personally first in case there is another misunderstanding like this.