EPIC TROLLED? OR JUST NAP TROLLED

[painful]

ATTENSHUN.

I HAZ DUNT MY FIRST TROLLING. IT R A SUCCESS. I BE GUD AT IT ONEDAY. RIGHT NOW. I R ONLY AS GUD AS KIDHAX. MEBE SOON BE GUD AS ZERLING4LIFE. THEN MEBE ICE?!?!?

SNAGGED FROM THE ARCHIVES OF THE NIXON NETWORK:
http://www.clanwts.com/replays/elite_hbot/GHost++%202009-04-02%2014-04%20-AP%20US_CA%20PROS%20BLON%20G++%20(23m46s).w3g



IT ENDS FAZT AFTAR KIX. ONLY LAST FOR 15 MINUTES.

RAPTAR FELL VICTUM.

I HAZ AN AFTAR GAME SPECIAL. IT SAFE ON ATTACHMENT.

[Avid]

how is this trolling? sounds to me like an arguement about you plugging/feeding hard once again

[MMOItachi]

Painful these immature jokes really have to stop... for example that day that i got into the channel (just logged on) and you started yelling at me about how i hated you.... then you kicked me.... you are a clan shaman and you should start acting like one

[painful]

replay:

raptar: !kick pain

gg.

[painful]

Painful these immature jokes really have to stop... for example that day that i got into the channel (just logged on) and you started yelling at me about how i hated you.... then you kicked me.... you are a clan shaman and you should start acting like one


again--- you don't know anything about how dota/pubs operate. You don't play with us. IF YOU DID, you would know the MAJORITY of people troll pubs.


Second, by "jokes" it implies more than one. Yeah, that one time was a joke. I challenge you to name another.

[Avid]

For a Shaman who is suposedly a Channel Moderator i dont see you doing you job at all. or being close to doing your job.
Also let me add that your JOKES dont amuse some people so maybe thats where you getting your bad rep and if these plugs are meant to be a joke then im not laughing nor is everyone else

Look, its just not one thing. but a host of reasons.

I come into channel and Madden talking about me. That just blew my fuse. I can't be in a clan where people I like are leaving/getting kicked (kidax, coins). People who I find to be very good, are looked down upon (cr players, albeit not all).

I don't need to be looked down on. "Painful I think you're perfect for this job." "Painful, I'm going to consider this, but you need to deal with x,y,z issues." "Sorry isn't good enough", etc.

I usually thought Shamans etc are the ones that lead teams in dota? So Madden just makes executive decisions...but grunts, peons make in-game decision? I'm not trying to berate Madden, he's a great player, I respect him for that, but there are also OTHER great players in the clan who are not being recognized. Everyone is a peon, and nothing can be done to move the clan forward.
I've asked, why cant kidax/coins join back into clan? If MAdden allows. Well hes not always on when others are. One "admin" isn't enough.
When I first thought of the idea that there needed to be a U.S. clan after fallout of several clans, and the jelling of ticos players, I wanted a leader many people can respect. That person was RichardNixon. I asked HIM to be chieftain, not anyone else. For all intents and purposes, Nixon has stepped down from clan. "WTSBot" is now chieftain.

Overall, I just feel an extreme amount of frustration with how this clan is going. How grunt promotion works. How there is only one shaman. How Nixon has stepped down. How the attempts to "organize" and "re-build" the clan are really just adding layers and layers of limits and, if you will, bureaucracy. I don't feel anything is going to be accomplished with the current path this clan is heading. My views on how the game should be played, and the players that play it in important ways opposes those of Madden. For all these reasons, I decided to quit the clan.

It r watergate-- naixon trai to cover it up. But i reveal to all the truth from the executive forums.

Good Luck with WTS.
Painful

[painful]

For a Shaman who is suposedly a Channel Moderator i dont see you doing you job at all. or being close to doing your job.
Also let me add that your JOKES dont amuse some people so maybe thats where you getting your bad rep and if these plugs are meant to be a joke then im not laughing nor is everyone else

plugs?
I have never "plugged" out of a game. Maybe you haven't been here long enough to understand that. The name "plugful" is given as a JOKE. I get d/ced from games. Against, pepsi challenge: show me an instance where i have left a game, OR prematurely !ended one.

I also don't see what your quotes are meant to show.I lead every private that our clan plays.

Third, you somehow speak for everyone on the clan? I'll provide a list for you of people that troll:

IceWithCoffee
GinwithJuice
RyewithGinger
Zergling4Life
JohnStockton
Kidax69
RichardNixon (on occasion, and explictely allows trolling in pubs)
Coins
Kross
Candyman23
Antidel


Oh hey look, its only the list of almost EVERY active member and person who idle our channel!

[Avid]

so its just a coincidence that everytime you are losing you miraculously disconnect? oh gosh then battlenet seems to love you then only getting disconnected when losing yet somehow you dont disconnect when you are dominating.

[painful]

For a Shaman who is suposedly a Channel Moderator i dont see you doing you job at all. or being close to doing your job.
Also let me add that your JOKES dont amuse some people so maybe thats where you getting your bad rep and if these plugs are meant to be a joke then im not laughing nor is everyone else

Yeah. actually trolling amuses everyone. Hindsight -- im amused by ice's trolling. Hindsight -- raptar was amused at my trolling. Stockton appreciated it. "WP".



so its just a coincidence that everytime you are losing you miraculously disconnect? oh gosh then battlenet seems to love you then only getting disconnected when losing yet somehow you dont disconnect when you are dominating.

Everytime? Since I've obviously !end and left soo many games when im losing--


accept this challenge:
provide a 3 instances of each in the last month, I'll gladly admit you're right, I'm wrong. I'll step down from Shaman, you can be Shaman. I'll leave the clan, and go play on ggc.

If you can't, then YOU leave the clan, leave the channel, leave the bots.



If you don't accept this,
then admit you're wrong. Make amends, and stop making bold claims you can't support.

[JohnStockton]

So no one will mention how Painful "leaves" "kits" "ragekits" "randomwordassociatedwithleavingpleaseinserthere" games in which he is actualy winning ?

[Avid]

oooo bold challenge is it before or after the server wipe bot wipe and replay just started being saved in the past week?

counter offer post all the replays of losing games you have in both elite_hbot and nixon bot if what you are saying is true then all the plugs( or shall we say server dced you) would be out of the blue and not after you die or started to feed in the case of !end-ing games i would have to ask nathan for the bot logs as replays do not save whispers of battlenet.


then post upto 4 games of you dcing when you were winning

[Antidel]

wtfax i dont know even what "troll" mean =S in this contex

[painful]

oooo bold challenge is it before or after the server wipe bot wipe and replay just started being saved in the past week?

counter offer post all the replays of losing games you have in both elite_hbot and nixon bot if what you are saying is true then all the plugs( or shall we say server dced you) would be out of the blue and not after you die or started to feed in the case of !end-ing games i would have to ask nathan for the bot logs as replays do not save whispers of battlenet.


then post upto 4 games of you dcing when you were winning

you want me to post every game im losing without "plugging" or "ending"? Sure, i can do that.

Also, its easy to tell i didn't "plug" because if I did, i would lose internet connection. That means i wouldn't still be connected to eurobattle.net. Yet after every "plug" I'm still connected to server, and I'm on clan wts. No one gets "your friend painful has left pvpgn" message. Explain that . kthx, and i'm posting all the games now.

oh yes, and do same terms apply?

[Avid]

actually i wanted you to post all of the losing games plug or not. i was referring to !end not counting because logs can always be checked

[painful]

actually i wanted you to post all of the losing games plug or not. i was referring to !end not counting because logs can always be checked


you want me to post all my losing replays?

i play over 10 games each day.. you want me to review 100+ replays and post how many??

also, !end is not whispered to bot, its typed in chat. you can see by the end game and shown in this thread. if you actuallyed WATCHED the replay, you can see raptar type !end.

[painful]

Uploading all my losing replays from the last 3 days -- there are NINE here. None of them are plugged. One of them is !ended because it was 4v1.

I provided 9 from last 3 days. CAn your provide 3 from... the last FIVE months?


Even if elite_bot got erased... !statsdota shows i've stil got 78 games on it. Furthermore, as of 1.22, every custom game is saved in your replay folder warcraftIII/replay(s?).
By logic, since you've SEEN me "plug", these "plugged" or "!ended" games should be in your replay folder, or your just totally bullshitting and make things up.


replays of me losing from last 3 days: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3FSLUMG8


and heres one month worth of replays, wins, losses, everything.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RDCK5XFW

[JohnStockton]

Both of you, please cut the crap, none of this bullshit is worth the consequences which it may cause.

[MMOItachi]

plugs?
I have never "plugged" out of a game. Maybe you haven't been here long enough to understand that. The name "plugful" is given as a JOKE. I get d/ced from games. Against, pepsi challenge: show me an instance where i have left a game, OR prematurely !ended one.

I also don't see what your quotes are meant to show.I lead every private that our clan plays.

Third, you somehow speak for everyone on the clan? I'll provide a list for you of people that troll:

IceWithCoffee (Knows his limits and ours)
GinwithJuice (Not that much)
RyewithGinger(Again not that much)
Zergling4Life(Uses a lot of 1337 talk which is annoying but i can deal)
JohnStockton(I havent seen him troll excessively)
Kidax69(Dont play with him much but i havent seen him troll)
RichardNixon (on occasion, and explictely allows trolling in pubs)(I cant believe u even brought nixon up, he is a true leader and makes good decisions and trolls as jokes (which ARE funny))
Coins(Ok this i kinda agree with u on lol still i think hes an OK guy)
Kross(Dont talk to him too much but he seems cool)
Candyman23(Same as coins =P)
Antidel(Not so much i think hes a cool guy and hes fun to play with and takes games seriously)


Oh hey look, its only the list of almost EVERY active member and person who idle our channel!

Point and case:
You are a shaman (they are not) which is much like an administrator of the clan.... if you cannot act like a mature adult (yes adults are allowed to joke and have fun but the way you ALWAYS do it is annoying to one and all)... then relinquish your shaman position.... trolling is one thing.... kicking a fellow shaman and other members is unacceptable

[painful]

IceWithCoffee (Knows his limits and ours)
GinwithJuice (Not that much)
RyewithGinger(Again not that much)
Zergling4Life(Uses a lot of 1337 talk which is annoying but i can deal)
JohnStockton(I havent seen him troll excessively)
Kidax69(Dont play with him much but i havent seen him troll)
RichardNixon (on occasion, and explictely allows trolling in pubs)(I cant believe u even brought nixon up, he is a true leader and makes good decisions and trolls as jokes (which ARE funny))
Coins(Ok this i kinda agree with u on lol still i think hes an OK guy)
Kross(Dont talk to him too much but he seems cool)
Candyman23(Same as coins =P)
Antidel(Not so much i think hes a cool guy and hes fun to play with and takes games seriously)
Point and case:
You are a shaman (they are not) which is much like an administrator of the clan.... if you cannot act like a mature adult (yes adults are allowed to joke and have fun but the way you ALWAYS do it is annoying to one and all)... then relinquish your shaman position.... trolling is one thing.... kicking a fellow shaman and other members is unacceptable

First, "and other members"? Which other members? Funny cuz thats the second time i kicked someone, the first time it was someone not in the clan.

Second, "trolling is one thing...". I got news for you, kicking you and the spamming you is the definition of trolling.

Thirdly, you say you havent any of the other members troll excessively...lmfao, thats because you DON'T PLAY DOTA WITH US. i trolled you once. ONE INSTANCE you can name. I HAVE NEVER TALKED TO YOU BEFORE. Also, you're analysis above just boils down to "hmm...these guys trolling is ok. I just want to bash painful for the point of not losing an argument".

So Fourhtly, keep making shit up. keep acting like you know what you're talking about.
avid has already admitted hes wrong. so why don't you also stfu?

[ginwithjuice]

I never troll.. dont know what you are talking about! :confused:

[painful]

I never troll.. dont know what you are talking about! :confused:

See Attachment.

[MMOItachi]

1. i do play dota with you guys, just not so much with you, yes i play more custom games but thats cause i run the custom bot (makes sense to any normal person)
2. everyone hates your trolling since it is so excessive, and yea your right i do barely know you so how do you think i would react when i join the channel and am kicked in a minute by you?
3. im not losing any argument.... theres no argument to begin with, just the fact that you are a shaman and are trolling everyone you see.... to be honest i dont think trolling should be allowed in the channel period.... pubs are one thing.... doin it to a shaman/clan members is another
4. jokes are great but if you keep it up it gets old really fast
5. if thats the worst troll you can find of gin then comon you are a million times worse than he could ever be

[JohnStockton]

5. if thats the worst troll you can find of gin then gtfo you are a million times worse than he could ever be

I can tell you that he aint worse than Gin, plus who gives you the right to tell someone who has been here for ages to gtfo?
You came here like a couple of months ago or so, became a Shaman just because you run nixon_custom not because anyone has any respect for you as a player what so ever.
Frankly I don't give a flying fuck what Painful said to you.
And again, what gives you the right to tell one of the oldest members to gtfo ?

[MMOItachi]

ok maybe wrong language but i believe a shaman should act with respect to all players.... ever see me troll?... no.... but ive been in administrator positions in many other sites and know the terms which allow me to keep that position.... i can tell you right now that the MAJORITY of the people would not be allowed to hold leadership positions in another site.... and what gives me the right? I'm mature and am holding a legitimate argument here.... as voiced by others his trolling is getting annoying.... john i dont care what respect you have for me.... our duties as shaman are to server the members of wts and i think this trolling problem has caused more problems than necessary.... how long you have been with someone does not necessarily mean they are in the right does it?..... does kicking a person off a channel and trolling lesser members sound right to you? if so then you WILL NOT get far in life.... i dont care what you think of me john but you need to control your temper and organize a fair argument.... throwing the word fuck around only makes you seem like an ass

-Itachi

[painful]

ok maybe wrong language but i believe a shaman should act with respect to all players.... ever see me troll?... no.... but ive been in administrator positions in many other sites and know the terms which allow me to keep that position.... i can tell you right now that the MAJORITY of the people would not be allowed to hold leadership positions in another site.... and what gives me the right? I'm mature and am holding a legitimate argument here.... as voiced by others his trolling is getting annoying.... john i dont care what respect you have for me.... our duties as shaman are to server the members of wts and i think this trolling problem has caused more problems than necessary.... how long you have been with someone does not necessarily mean they are in the right does it?..... does kicking a person off a channel and trolling lesser members sound right to you? if so then you WILL NOT get far in life.... i dont care what you think of me john but you need to control your temper and organize a fair argument.... throwing the word fuck around only makes you seem like an ass

-Itachi


All i hear is red herring red herring red herring. What does being "administrators" on other sites have to do with this conversation? What does maturity have to do with your knowledge of this clan? I can go create 10 forums and make myself head admin. Must mean im UBER mature. I'd like to see these "other sites" that you held "leadership" positions on. I'd like to know why you arent a moderator now if you're "so mature".
"trolling problem" "lesser members" these are ALL legitimate arguments. You just ignore what i say for the last 10 posts. "lesser members" = rapture. trolling problem = kicking u out of a channel once. Give me a fucking break kid. No one on this entire forum agrees with you.
You know what looks like a bigger ass than "throwing the word fuck around"? Talking when you dont know two shits about this clan.

Bottom line: your detracting from the original point.
NO ONE other than you believe trolling is bad.
NO ONE other than you think I'm excessively trolling.
NO ONE other than you think I leave/end games.

[raptar]

talk about a derailed thread

[JohnStockton]

ever see me troll?...
No...
Maybe because you barely play with us?
Maybe because you are too nice ?
Maybe because you barely got the DotA skillz in order to talk shit to someone ? (since almost everyone is better than you this could be true)
Maybe because you're trying to bring maturity into a 12+ online game?

but ive been in administrator positions in many other sites and know the terms which allow me to keep that position.... i can tell you right now that the MAJORITY of the people would not be allowed to hold leadership positions in another site

I'm sorry, what ?

as voiced by others his trolling is getting annoying

Who are those "others"? Names please.

does kicking a person off a channel and trolling lesser members sound right to you?

Which lesser members got trolled by Painful ? And he kicked you from channel, so what ? Did that hurt your feelings?

throwing the word fuck around only makes you seem like an ass


If saying "fuck" once makes me an ass, then yes I'm an ass.

Basicaly all this crap is because Painful trolled you? Oh my... someone please call the Anti-Troll Police, we got a victim here!

[MMOItachi]

hahaha i find this so funny that you guys get so hyped up about something as stupid as this.... yea painful trolled me.... i didnt give two shits about that, in fact afterwards we played a game together.... i have no problem with it but it does get on my nerves as it does everyone else's occasionally.... and john, yes you are an ass.... if all you can come up with in an argument are degrading comments then go fuck yourself.... yea i am nice.... it gets me far in life.... and yea i do suck at dota... maybe because i dont spend every waking moment playing wc3?.... and yes i am trying to bring maturity into a 12+ online game but appearently you cant teach maturity to bastards such as yourself =D... and painful you just stated that a method to getting rid of a troll is kicking them out.... are you suggesting we kick you out? you guys are taking a legitimate argument to extremes and throwing in bashing me around..... frankly i dont give a damn what you think of me.... ive got real life issues to deal with.... the last thing i need or want are some whiny kids who enjoy trolling 12 year olds who play dota (after all it is a 12+ online game right?).... oh and you want a site i was admin on? exploitnation.org.... a hacking site.... why was i un-admined? i ASKED FOR IT.... i had real life issues going on and could not dedicate time i did not have to help run a site.... and yea pain you could go make 10 new websites but that just makes you look like an idiot =D... oh and i was also a global moderator on MMO-Mania but that site went down after 4 years

[ginwithjuice]

this topic is UBER 1337!

[RichardNixon]

Ok enough, this is just an off-topic flame war. If you really have problems with someone else and want them banned/demoted/whatever, post in the Reports forum with appropriate proof.